Annuity Atlas
Reviews

Product review · Forethought · Not approved in CA and NY

ForeIncome II 10-Year with Guaranteed Income Builder (Morgan Stanley) review

ForeIncome II 10-Year with Guaranteed Income Builder is Forethought's income-focused fixed indexed annuity, available here through the Morgan Stanley distribution channel. Its biggest strength is the Guaranteed Income Builder: a 10% annual roll-up on the benefit base, a 15-year deferral window, and a chronic illness enhancement bundled at no extra cost. Its biggest weakness is the 1.20% rider fee that applies every year, charged on the larger withdrawal base rather than just the account value. It is an income tool first and an accumulation vehicle a distant second.

Our rating

4.0★ / 5
Good Option
Morgan Stanley clients in the pre-retirement window who want to convert long-term savings into a guaranteed future income stream with a chronic illness backstop included
Get my free quote
Surrender
10 years
Issue ages
45-85
MGSV
87.5% of premiums at 1-3%
Free withdrawal
10% of beginning-of-year Contract Value annually; 10% of Account Value in Year 1
01

Why it earned this rating

Our assessment

The Morgan Stanley version of ForeIncome II 10-Year with Guaranteed Income Builder carries the same product structure as the open-market sibling — the same 10% annual benefit-base credit, the same 1.20% rider fee, the same full-account-value death benefit, and the Income Enhancement Benefit for chronic illness at no extra charge. Nothing in the available materials suggests the distribution channel introduced materially better or worse terms, so the rating stays consistent with the base version: a good option for the income-focused buyer, held just below top-tier by the fee load and deliberately conservative accumulation terms.

02

The short version

This is a 10-year income annuity available through Morgan Stanley, built around one job: turning a lump sum today into guaranteed lifetime income later. The heart of the contract is the Guaranteed Income Builder, which credits 10% to your withdrawal base each year you defer, for up to 15 years. What keeps it from being a universal fit is the same thing that applies to any income-first FIA: a 1.20% annual rider fee comes out of real account value regardless of whether you activate income, and the index crediting is deliberately conservative because the carrier is funding a lifetime guarantee. If your advisor is at Morgan Stanley and you want a predictable future income floor with time to build it, this contract is worth a close look.

03

Key facts

Surrender Period
10 years
Issue Ages
45-85
Minimum Premium
$25,000
Free Withdrawal
10% of beginning-of-year Contract Value annually; 10% of Account Value in Year 1
Income Rider
Built-in
Premium Bonus
None
04

The full review

Is Forethought ForeIncome II 10-Year with Guaranteed Income Builder (Morgan Stanley) a Good Annuity?

Yes, for the right buyer. This is a good annuity for someone who wants protected lifetime income, plans to defer for several years before turning income on, and values having the income engine built into the contract rather than added later. It is less appealing for someone who mainly wants accumulation, expects to need access to principal above the 10% free amount, or is uncomfortable paying a recurring rider fee on a guarantee they may not use for a decade or more.

Why Someone Would Buy This Annuity

The main reason to buy this version of ForeIncome II is to lock in a future income stream while keeping principal protected along the way, and to do so through a Morgan Stanley advisor relationship. The 10% annual credit to the withdrawal base is contractual, not dependent on index performance, which means the income foundation grows on a schedule regardless of what markets do. A second reason is the chronic illness enhancement included at no extra charge, which gives the contract a care-planning dimension that many income FIAs charge separately for or do not offer at all.

Who This Annuity Is Best For

I think this annuity is best for a Morgan Stanley client roughly 55 to 70 who is using long-term money to manufacture a retirement paycheck, expects to defer withdrawals for several years, and wants the certainty of a guaranteed income figure they can plan around. The 45-85 issue-age band is wider than many income products, which allows both pre-retirees and people already in early retirement to fund it. It works in qualified and non-qualified accounts. It is a poor fit for someone who wants strong accumulation, needs frequent access above the free amount, or would rather pay no annual fee on a guarantee they are uncertain they will use.

What You're Really Buying Here

You are not buying index-market upside. You are buying a guaranteed income framework wrapped around a principal-protected annuity. The contract tracks two separate numbers. One is your actual account value — real cash that grows based on index crediting and passes to heirs. The other is the withdrawal base — an accounting figure used only to calculate your guaranteed income, which grows by the 10% annual credit. The withdrawal base will be larger and grow faster than the account value, but it is not money you can withdraw in a lump sum. It exists to determine how large your lifetime income payments will be once you activate them, and those payments continue for life even if the account value eventually reaches zero.

How the Core Feature Works

The Guaranteed Income Builder — technically the Guaranteed Lifetime Withdrawal Benefit XII — is built into the contract automatically. No election is needed at purchase. While you defer, the rider credits 10% to your withdrawal base each contract year for up to 15 years or until you activate income, whichever comes first. That credit is described in the materials as an annual increase to the benefit base, which reads as simple interest on the base rather than compounding growth. Confirm the exact mechanics on the current rate sheet before modeling specific income figures. When you are ready to activate, your age at that point and the size of your withdrawal base together determine the guaranteed annual amount you can take for life. Those payments continue even if the underlying account value is drawn down to zero. The fee for this guarantee is 1.20% per year, deducted from your account value and calculated on the withdrawal base.

Why the Secondary Feature Matters

The most meaningful secondary feature is the Income Enhancement Benefit, a chronic illness rider included at no separate charge. If you later cannot perform a set number of activities of daily living, the rider can increase your income payout under its terms. That turns this contract into a partial backstop for care costs without requiring a standalone long-term-care policy, and having it bundled at no extra cost improves the overall value equation in a way that a simple income rider does not.

The crediting menu is also notable. The contract offers access to the S&P 500 on an Annual Point-to-Point basis with a cap of 5.00% and a 1.00% spread, a Performance Triggered account at 3.85%, and a Fixed Account at 3.00%. Those are conservative terms by accumulation standards, but they are appropriate for a product that is primarily designed to support a lifetime income guarantee rather than maximize cash growth. The crediting is a modest tailwind for the account value, not the headline feature.

Liquidity and Surrender Schedule

This annuity is built for long-term retirement dollars, not short-term cash needs. You can withdraw up to 10% of the beginning-of-year contract value each year without surrender charges, and in year one the limit is 10% of account value. Anything above that amount during the 10-year surrender period triggers the declining charge schedule below, and a Market Value Adjustment also applies. The MVA means your effective exit cost can move with interest rates — in a rising-rate environment, the MVA can add to your penalty; in a falling-rate environment, it can reduce it.

There are some relief provisions. The contract is noted as RMD-friendly, meaning required minimum distributions should generally be manageable within or alongside the free-withdrawal amount, but confirm this directly with the carrier for your specific qualified account situation. Nursing home and terminal illness waivers can lift surrender charges in qualifying circumstances. Even with those provisions, this is a long-duration contract and should be treated as committed retirement capital, not accessible savings.

Contract YearSurrender Charge
19%
29%
38%
47%
56%
65%
74%
83%
92%
101%
110%
Fees and Tradeoffs

The fee that matters is the 1.20% annual rider charge for the Guaranteed Income Builder. It is deducted from your account value each year, but it is calculated on the withdrawal base, which is larger and grows faster than the actual account value. That means the dollar cost of the fee increases over time even if your real account value stays flat. There is no separate base-contract fee disclosed, and both the death benefit and the chronic illness enhancement are included rather than charged separately, so the rider charge is effectively the entire fee story.

Name the trade plainly: 1.20% per year buys you a guaranteed 10% annual increase to your future income base for up to 15 years, plus a lifetime payout that does not stop if the account runs dry. Whether that is worth it depends almost entirely on whether you actually activate income and live long enough to recover the fee cost through the guaranteed payments. If you defer, activate, and live a long time, the guarantee can be highly valuable. If you end up surrendering early or never turning income on, you will have paid the fee for a benefit you did not use, and the conservative crediting will have left your cash value lighter than a pure accumulation FIA would have. That is the structural bargain inside every income-first FIA, and this contract is no exception.

Product snapshot
FeatureDetails
Product TypeIncome-Focused Fixed Indexed Annuity
Surrender Period10 years
Issue Ages45-85
Minimum Premium$25,000
IndicesS&P 500
Crediting MethodsAnnual Point-to-Point, Fixed Account
Free Withdrawal10% of beginning-of-year Contract Value annually; 10% of Account Value in Year 1
MGSV87.5% of premiums at 1-3%
Death BenefitFull Account Value
Income RiderBuilt-in
Income Rider Fee1.20% annual
Premium BonusNone
AvailabilityNot approved in CA and NY
Carrier snapshot

Legal Entity: Forethought Life Insurance Company

Parent: Global Atlantic Financial Group

A.M. Best Rating: A

ForeIncome II is issued by Forethought Life Insurance Company, part of Global Atlantic Financial Group. The A.M. Best rating of A places the carrier in solid financial-strength territory, which matters more than usual for an income product — the lifetime payout guarantee is only as good as the insurer standing behind it over a multi-decade retirement horizon.

Final take

The Morgan Stanley version of ForeIncome II 10-Year with Guaranteed Income Builder is the same product as the open-channel sibling in all material respects. If your advisor is at Morgan Stanley and this is the product being recommended, there is no channel-specific penalty or advantage apparent in the spec materials — you are getting the same 10% annual income-base credit, the same 1.20% fee, the same chronic illness enhancement, and the same 10-year commitment structure.

For the income-focused buyer who wants a contractual income engine rather than a market bet, it is a good option. For someone mainly interested in growing wealth, who needs meaningful liquidity, or who is not planning to actually activate the lifetime income guarantee, the 1.20% fee is a drag that a lower-cost accumulation FIA or a MYGA would avoid. The product is also not approved in California or New York.

Ready to see how it stacks up?

  • Income, fees & ratings compared
  • Across every reviewed product
  • 100% free. No pressure.
Compare annuities